Podcasts for therapists

I wanted to share two podcasts I recommend for counsellors and other interested individuals. They probably wouldn’t surprise anyone who already listens to podcasts.

They are:

Where should we begin? by Esther Perel
Dear Therapists by Lori Gottieb and Guy Winch

They don’t do things exactly the way I would do it but they’re interesting. Esther, in particular, has an attachment and narrative lens in her approach. She also doesn’t shy away from challenging the mainstreams with non-monogamy, and non-binary.
If anyone knows any narrative therapy focused podcasts please let me know!